On Apr 27, 2012, at 12:23 PM, John C Klensin wrote: > At the risk of repeating something about which various ADs and > others have gotten an earful, unless there are very special and > unusual circumstances [Note 1], it is unwise to, e.g., have us > chair a WG or assume many other leadership positions. It is > easy to say "So-and-so should chair this WG because, based on a > dozen before it, she knows how to do that". Instead, it is > better to find someone more junior and, if appropriate, appoint > the more senior people to advisory and support roles. So in addition to "Secretary" and "Technical Advisor", we can start listing "Designated Greybeard". This is progress? --Paul Hoffman