> The MARF charter [1] does not contain any mention of "SPF Authentication > Failure Reporting using the Abuse Report Format" as a deliverable. There is > no mention of SPF in the charter. Keep in mind that the charter has these two items: 2) The group will produce an informational document detailing guidelines for deploying and using ARF, including descriptions of current practices and their rationales. 3) The group will specify the integration of ARF into DKIM-aware environments, with draft-kucherawy-dkim-reporting-06 as its input. It contains extensions to DKIM that are related to ARF as a means of reporting DKIM-related failures which include phishing ("fraud") and as such are relevant to the ARF effort. The group will produce Proposed Standard track specification for these ARF and DKIM extensions. Then note this: 1. The reporting document originally included the SPF information, since there's a lot of common aspects, and it makes sense to talk about both. The WG decided to split the document into four pieces, for organizational purposes, with authfailure-report, redaction, dkim, and spf as separate pieces. 2. SPF is widely deployed in the real world. Information about deploying and using ARF (item 2 in the charter) in such an environment is absolutely part of the charter. It's important to get this information out there in parallel with the DKIM information. If the output of the spfbis working group results in a need for a revision to this document, such revision can be taken up then. Barry _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf