Re: Please remove draft-ordogh-spam-reporting-using-imap-kleansed fromI-D repository

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----- Original Message -----
From: "todd glassey" <tglassey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "t.petch" <daedulus@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "Alessandro Vesely" <vesely@xxxxxxx>; "ietf" <ietf@xxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 8:38 PM
> On 1/21/2012 10:53 AM, t.petch wrote:
> > Alessandro
> >
> > You could, of course, issue an updated version which simply says that its
> > predecessor should not have been filed for the reasons you give in the
e-mail.
> > No  need to include any other text whatsoever (except, of course, the
relevant
> > boiler plate).
>
> Tom
> No actually he cant. That will complicate the matter since the IETF
> publishing manner has specifically been set up to destroy the ability to
> recall anything. The license to use per the copyright statement is
> irrevocable even through the revisions process.

Yes, you are right.  The I-D has now vanished from the 'current'
archive but is still accessible through the expired archive; mmm.
It is very difficult to eliminate something from the Internet, so I
think my suggestion of a later version explaining what happened
could be valuable as belt and braces, reckoning people are
more likely to retrieve it than an earlier version; or perhaps
it would just draw people's attention to what should never have
been:-(  I dunno - IPR is so complicated.

Tom Petch

> That's right - it was published with a set of specific rights use
> statements which are factually wrong and now the IETF is stuck with that
> - unless a recall practice is put in place immediately like all other
> publications houses have.
>
>
> Todd
>
> >
> > That seems simpler to me than asking the system to do something rather
unusual
> > that it may not have a mechanism to do.  In future, there could always be
> > another version moving the process forward in the appropriate direction.
> >
> > Tom Petch
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Alessandro Vesely" <vesely@xxxxxxx>
> > To: <ietf-action@xxxxxxxx>
> > Cc: "Zoltan Ordogh" <zordogh@xxxxxxx>; "apps discuss"
<apps-discuss@xxxxxxxx>;
> > "ietf" <ietf@xxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 4:03 PM
> > Subject: Please remove draft-ordogh-spam-reporting-using-imap-kleansed
fromI-D
> > repository
> >
> >
> >> Dear IETF Secretariat,
> >>
> >> I hereby ask that draft-ordogh-spam-reporting-using-imap-kleansed be
> >> removed from the I-D repository.  I submitted it on 10 Jan 2012, in a
> >> clumsy attempt to speed up a discussion about a similarly named I-D,
> >> draft-ordogh-spam-reporting-using-imap.  The editing I carried out was
> >> based on previous writing about, both privately and on IETF lists.
> >> However, I hadn't obtained the author's permission to alter the
> >> boilerplate-type of the original document.  Thus, the document I
> >> posted bears "wrong" copyright information.  In particular, unwitting
> >> editors may derive their own work from this document if they just
> >> abide by its boilerplate text, while the original post did not imply a
> >> handoff of change control.
> >>
> >> I apologize for any inconveniences that my action might have caused.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Alessandro Vesely
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >>
> >>
> >
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