I didn't suggest that. It's clear in the Canadian Order that if you provide SIP interconnection to anyone you have to make it available to everyone. But as you correctly point out, I doubt such carriers either exist or will exist much longer. It does create a more level playing field. This Order clearly sidestepped the issue of a shot clock for full TDM retirement, though a review of the Order is suggested for 2014. I thought Paragraph 69-70 on establishing a Canadian carrier ENUM database personally amusing. The larger issue for our community is the existing NNI profiles have not been updated in years and there is still a huge gap analysis that needs to be undertaken that may require further IETF RAI work. I haven't seen that started yet. We haven't heard the last of this by any means. -----Original Message----- From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kevin P. Fleming Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 4:54 PM To: ietf@xxxxxxxx Subject: Re: FYI : Canada's CRTC mandates all IP Interconnection for voice. On 01/24/2012 02:28 PM, Richard Shockey wrote: > /In this decision, the Commission decides that it is in the public > interest to establish a set of principles to facilitate IP voice network > interconnections between network operators while allowing market forces > to shape the details of the arrangements. Specifically, in areas where a > carrier provides IP voice interconnection to an affiliate, a division of > its operations, or an unrelated service provider, the carrier must > negotiate a similar arrangement with any other carrier that requests > such an arrangement. Within six months of a formal request, an > arrangement is to be concluded./ > > http://www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/com100/2012/r120119.htm I think that your subject is a bit misleading. This decision does not 'outlaw' non-IP interconnection, nor does it obligate a carrier that is not currently IP-interconnected (if such a carrier exists) to become so connected. It only levels the playing field and ensures that all IP-interconnected carriers make IP interconnection available to any other carrier that is interested in it, not just the 'chosen few'. -- Kevin P. Fleming Digium, Inc. | Director of Software Technologies Jabber: kfleming@xxxxxxxxxx | SIP: kpfleming@xxxxxxxxxx | Skype: kpfleming 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA Check us out at www.digium.com & www.asterisk.org _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf