On 15 November 2011 20:33, Martin Rex <mrex@xxxxxxx> wrote: > You mean free as in > Expires: This image will shutdown and become completely unusable > on November 17, 2011. Yes, or rather, EAGAIN on November 18, that should give you the next 120 days period for XP images. AFAIK the Vista images are more flexible... > This is for the 366 MB Windows XP image ...small caveat, the purpose of this image is to test Web pages for IE6. They can ditch it as soon as they realize that this is in conflict with their own "phase out IE6" policy. If you happen to have an unused W2K key you could find W2K images via YouTube. I'm too lazy to type all "security considerations" for the W2K image approach, but W2K can install and run a PPT viewer. FWIW it can also install and run Adobe Reader 8 as PDF viewer. Don't try Adobe Reader 9 with only 256K virtual RAM. > If downloading and running several hundred megabytes is considered > an option, then you will be *MUCH* better of with a Linux Live-CD > like Knoppix 6.7.0 at 700MByte for the CD, which includes > LibreOffice 3.3.3 that seems capable of opening PPTX. Sure, if you like that better go for it. I went the opposite way, I removed LibreOffice from a collection of "portable apps" (for a definition of portable related to "W2K or XP or better 32bit NT"), and I uninstalled a free "MS Office Live 10" shipped with my Win 7 box, because simple DOC(X) and PPT(X) viewers are faster and even can "print as XPS" (if I want to keep the rendered output). But XPS is unsuited for W2K, therefore I guess it is hopeless for other platforms including Debian (Knoppix/Ubuntu/...). >> While I hate "anything pdf" I fear that this solution only to >> "play" PPT(X) would be *much* worse. > No, it would be *MUCH* better. If you want movies, upload them > to youtube. Using PDFs for the datatracker is *MUCH* better > (and it is much more likely that it can still be looked > at in 15 years, whereas support for any particular PPT-Format > seems to be less than 10 years.) Slides are IMO not really "movies", at least not the simple slides used for IETF presentations. On YouTube you'd get Flash or some HTML5 video format, folks unhappy with PPT(X) might not be happier with this approach. > If anything, then the datatracker should automatically convert > any uploaded PPT to PDF itself. Well, I'd prefer PPT if only PPT and PDF are offered for viewing, and I'd prefer anything based on W3C XHTML 1.0 without scripts. -Frank _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf