On Oct 21, 2011 6:07 AM, "George, Wes" <wesley.george@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > From: Andrew Allen [mailto:aallen@xxxxxxx]
> > We can put all kinds of wonderful constraints on hotels if we want to -
> > [snip] - then we will likely never be able to meet anywhere.
> >
> [WEG] I am not suggesting that this be a deal-breaker constraint. We have quite a number of "nice to have" items that we will ask for, but not necessarily take our business elsewhere if we do not get. The sense I get from IAOC is that dates, capacity, and cost are the constraints. IPv6 support is window dressing (or deck chairs, depending on your perspective).
>
There is no harm in putting it in as a "nice to have", and this is the type of thing makes a good tie-breaker and puts ipv6 on the radar.
If the ietf cannot even make this simple request (not even a requirement), we are in a sad sad state.
Cb
> > IF IPv6 really requires IETF to use its business to influence hotels to
> > adopt it then its a technolgy that deserves to go the way of the DoDo.
> > IPv6 will be adopted because it is needed and brings commerical
> > benefits to those that deploy it.
>
> [WEG] This is not an attempt to force *whether* IPv6 will be deployed, but when. Hotels are sort of an extension of the consumer space - right now, they don't know/care what IPv6 is, nor see a reason why it's necessary. It is quite unlikely that your average person will walk to the counter and say, "your internet service is partially broken because it doesn't support IPv6." It is even less likely that this will happen enough times that they say, "gosh, perhaps we need to look into this eye pee vee six thing..." IETF has some leverage, and by definition should be on the early adopter curve, so I'm simply suggesting that they use it to accelerate the timeline a bit.
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> > From: Cullen Jennings [mailto:fluffy@xxxxxxxxx]
> > I love the taste of dog food, but v6 in the hotel is not something that I find critical to accomplish the
> > task I come to IETF to get done.
>
> [WEG] We're working contracts for hotel venues 3+ years out at this point. How long are you willing to assume that IPv6 will not be critical to tasks that you need to do at IETF and that the IPv4 service in the hotel will be an acceptable alternative?
>
> Wes George
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