On 20 October 2011 10:27, John C Klensin wrote: [...} +1 Two "it's only me" observations: What some mobile broadband providers euphemistically sell as "ISDN"- speed in Germany and what Microsoft claims to be a "media player" is a major PIT* with whatever the IETF considers as "audio streaming". If there are good jabber scribes not assuming that "audio" remotely works or is related to their side of "real time" remote jabber participation can be fun. Even if jabber doesn't work very well there are often at least interesting jabber logs. -Frank _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf