the ietf, and i hope all sdos, are supposed to provide users with interoperable multi-vendor choice, not non-interoperable multi-standard incompatibility. from a sic year old broadside <https://archive.psg.com/051000.ccr-ivtf.pdf> The IETF’s vendor/market approach has engendered a ‘let the market decide’ culture. Instead of hard- thought, rigorous, and simple designs, every possible feature gets added and many competing proposals are approved. This last is like throwing spaghetti at the wall to see what sticks, an amusing tactic to everyone but the wall. The operators are the wall. And they pay capital cost and operational expense to deploy complex features which vendors market as needs to the users. And then everyone wonders why the margins went down and the prices stayed up. randy _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf