On 21/09/2011 21:03, David Kessens wrote: > The critical thing is that we don't loose the participation of the IETF > chair, IAB chair and ISOC President/CEO while at the same time finding a way > to lighten their workload. I think one of the questions to be answered is: do we want participation of the I* chair or do we want participation of the related I* group. If I look back at my years on the IAOC, then I think that it is very important that the opinions of the I* groups is known in the IAOC and it is equally important that the I* groups have a vote when decisions are to be made. I'm not at all convinced though that the person doing this needs to be the chair. A model where the I* selects one of them to represent the I* on the IAOC (with full voting rights for that person) would work equally well, of course, assuming that the representative talks to the other members of the I* group. A model where the I* can send 1 person, rather than just the chair, will make it easier for the I* to distribute the work amongst the people. That is an improvement. > > However, I don't object if the IETF chair would have a designated backup for > the voting role when he/she cannot attend to IAOC business. I believe it > would be useful for the designated backup to be a non voting permanent IAOC > member in order to make sure the backup understands what is going on. Well, I have been on committees with designated backups and it just does not work: if a backup only looks at the ongoing issues when it is clear that the first person cannot attend, he will miss a lot of background and cannot sensibly participate. If the backup follows everything that is going on, then the amount of work to be done doubles. Again, from personal experience, I'd much rather see that the unavailable person comments by mail beforehand or even asks for a discussion to be postponend, than having a backup for a single meeting. Henk -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Henk Uijterwaal Email: henk(at)uijterwaal.nl http://www.uijterwaal.nl Phone: +31.6.55861746 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ There appears to have been a collective retreat from reality that day. (John Glanfield, on an engineering project) _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf