On 2011-09-07 10:12, Julian Reschke wrote: > On 2011-09-07 00:01, Brian E Carpenter wrote: >> On 2011-09-07 09:35, Ted Hardie wrote: >> ... >>> My personal opinion for some time has been that we ought to recognize >>> that >>> the previous PS moved into "WG draft" years ago and that anything >>> named an >>> RFC should be recognized as something that market will consider a >>> standard. >> >> And who raised the bar? It wasn't the IESG, it was the market, and more >> specifically the product managers and IT managers who adopted RFC >> conformance >> as their criterion. >> >> I'm a bit fed up with the IESG being blamed for this, rather than being >> congratulated on adapting to it. >> ... > > Well, if that's really what happened, then > draft-housley-two-maturity-levels seems to solve the wrong problem. The problem it is claimed to solve is an easier one: making it more likely that people will do the work to progress *beyond* PS. I don't see it as having the slightest impact on the quality or quantity of PS documents. That is a different, and harder, problem. And that's why I changed the Subject header; I like it when messages have a subject header that describes the content, not the content of another thread that finsihed a while back. Brian _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf