Re: Routing at the Edges of the Internet

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On 8/26/11 14:08 , Doug Barton wrote:
> On 08/26/2011 13:57, Adam Novak wrote:
>> On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Doug Barton <dougb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have a related-but-different example of how end nodes being able to
>>> know/discover direct paths to one another could be useful. Imagine a
>>> busy server network with some web servers over here, some sql servers
>>> over there, etc. All of these systems are on the same network, same
>>> switch fabric, and have the same gateway address. In an ideal world I
>>> would like them to be able to know that they can speak directly to one
>>> another without having to go through the gateway (and without my having
>>> to manually inject static routes on the hosts, which of course is both
>>> painful and un-scale'y.
>>
>> Shouldn't that be covered by the subnet mask?
> 
> Mostly, yes of course, but I'm dramatically simplifying my example for
> dramatic effect. :)
> 
>> As long as they know
>> they're on the same subnet (and ARP broadcasts will reach everyone)
>> they should just ARP for each other and not involve the router at all.
>>
>> If they are on different IP subnets, but the same Ethernet,
> 
> Yes, this is more often the case that I'm dealing with. (Working on
> fixing a problem I inherited for a new client, so per your comment below
> "don't number that way" may be the right answer.)

overlayed subnets are pretty straight-forward with ipv6 RA.

> Doug
> 
> 
>> then we
>> can either come up with a new way to do routing, or tell people not to
>> number things that way. Perhaps a subnet mask or CIDR prefix is not
>> expressive enough?
> 
> 
> 

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