On 8/23/2011 5:08 PM, Shane Kerr wrote: > Russ, > > On Mon, 2011-08-22 at 17:24 -0400, IETF Chair wrote: >> The IESG is considering a different schedule for the Friday of IETF 82. >> The IESG is seeking your input on these potential changes. >> >> The IESG would like to try a schedule experiment on Friday, using this >> schedule: > > In principle this makes sense, but do people think that the IETF meeting > agenda will remain unknown and unknowable until the very last minute? As > we see in the Tao of the IETF: > > ... the agenda is fluid, and there have been many instances of > participants missing important sessions due to last-minute > scheduling changes after their travel plans were fixed. Being > present the whole week is the only way to avoid this annoyance. > > This has happened to me in the past... more than an "annoyance" since > there were three working groups I really wanted to join in the physical > meeting and I missed one. A transcontinental flight, hotel stays, and > time away from the "day job" are a heavy price that is more than > "annoying" when you miss 1/3 of the meetings. > > If the idea of not fixing agendas is to remain, then any experiments for > extending the Friday schedule pretty much mean that everyone has to > extend their stay, doesn't it? I think if we want to use Friday time > properly, then this ideology needs to go. Either that or the idea that Friday is an "off day" has to go. Oh, wait, it has, a couple of years ago. Slow learner or just in denial? > > Or maybe it already has and I misunderstand things! > > Thanks, > > -- > Shane > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf