Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-yam-rfc4409bis-02.txt> (Message Submission

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> On 12.08.2011 21:02, Martin Rex wrote:
> > On 8/11/2011 9:37 AM, The IESG wrote:
> >> The IESG has received a request from the Yet Another Mail WG (yam) to
> >> consider the following document:
> >> - 'Message Submission for Mail'
> >>    <draft-ietf-yam-rfc4409bis-02.txt>  as a Full Standard
> >>
> >> The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
> >> final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
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> >
> > I'm wondering wheter there should be an informative reference to rfc6186.

> This question was one of two points raised during WGLC by Derek Diget
> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/yam/current/msg00615.html

> It was decided that the current deployment of SRV doesn't quite justify
> supporting it in a Full Standard document.

I really wish it were otherwise, but I find myself having to agree with this
assessment. It would be a different thing if this was just now coming up for
approval at proposed, but we're way past that.

> > and I am concerned about the security mess around SMTP-AUTH (rfc4954)
> > (for which this document is not responsible, but which it also
> >  does not mention).

> This question was raised by Chris Newman on Fri, 30 Apr 2010.
> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/yam/current/msg00420.html

> There was a somewhat deeper discussion, but the conclusion was the same as
> yours, namely that it's not the responsibility of 4409bis, and that

>    it would be a serious mistake to clutter 4409bis up with some of the
>    details that have been suggested.  Even at full standard, authentication
>    details are best incorporated by reference to other documents than can be
>    updated when or as necessary.
>               http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/yam/current/msg00434.html

+1

				Ned
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