Masataka Ohta <mohta@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > Moreover, unlike nat64, nat44 can be fully transparent end to end. Some people may consider it a feature that only incumbents with power and money can usefully call listen(), and that useful user to user activities requires the cooperation of an intrusive 3rd party, while mere users and upstarts can only call connect(). Some people consider that a feature. I do not. It is, in fact, getting really hard to avoid assuming malice on the part of people who want to nail the world to the nat44 cross. .. Mark Atwood _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf