>>>>> "Lorenzo" == Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@xxxxxxxxxx> writes: >> Why are you trying to make life harder for developers of IPv6 >> applications? There's no reason at all that an application >> developer should have to set up a special-purpose network just to >> test an IPv6 application. >> Lorenzo> No, we're trying to make their lives easier, by suggesting Lorenzo> they use something that actually *works*. >> Realistic testing of applications needs to be done on real >> networks, or a least an approximation to real networks. Testing >> IPv6 using 6to4 over public IPv4 obviously isn't perfect, but >> it's a hell of a lot more realistic than setting up a lab network >> and confining one's testing to that. Lorenzo> So use a tunnel broker. My tunnel broker has a machine with broken IPv4 routing, which they can't fix. It's been down for a week+ now. We had to renumber that location in time for World IPv6 day. We only had 6 machines that were using their non-autoconfigured addresses, so the rest was just a s///g in the DNS zone file. 6to4 would have turned this into my problem (which I could have fixed), but since some places like google refuse to run their own 6to4 relay, I can't really use 6to4 to talk to. Thanks. This all reminds of how killing the mbone killed multicast. -- ] He who is tired of Weird Al is tired of life! | firewalls [ ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON |net architect[ ] mcr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/ |device driver[ Kyoto Plus: watch the video <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzx1ycLXQSE> then sign the petition. _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf