Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote: > > 1) WPA/WPA2 is not an end to end protocol by any stretch of imagination. > It is link layer security. It is a 100% end-to-end security protocol. A protocol that by design is not end-to-end security might be SMTPS. which is why end-users are usually not even aware when and where it is used. > > 2) My argument was based on usage by the billion plus Internet users. > > I don't think more than about 5% of Internet users have ever used one of the > protocols you mention. WPA/WPA2 (and formerly WEP) is likely used by >50% of the internet users in Germany. Based on court decisions (filesharing) about liabilities for running open WLANs, _not_ to use WPA/WPA2 can be a pretty expensive risk. -Martin _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf