Re: [sidr] Last Call: <draft-ietf-sidr-arch-11.txt> (An Infrastructure to

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On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Christopher Morrow
<morrowc.lists@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> (not speaking for the authors, just observing some... also not
> speaking as a co-chair)
>
> On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 11:23 AM, t.petch <daedulus@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> I find this I-D problematic.  The subject matter is of crucial importance,
>> comparable to, or perhaps more important than, IPv6, yet this I-D is not
>> an easy read and there should be one such somewhere.
>>
>
> I thought there was to be an overview doc as well produced, with the
> goal being to lay out the basic parts referring to the other drafts
> for further info/expansion.

oh, I mentioned the overview in the note about rechartering:

"The SIDR working group is charged with the following goals and
milestones:
ID Date      Pub Date
Mar 2011   Jan 2012  An overview of the RPKI and BGP Protocol changes
required for origin and path validation"

-chris

>> sidr has produced an awesome collection of I-Ds (some now obsolete) but it is
>> not obvious, short of spending a few months in the archives, how they fit
>> together.  Other major projects - snmp for example - produced an Introduction,
>> acting as a starting point and a road map to the other I-Ds and I think that
>> that should be a prerequisite for sidr.  This I-D is not it (even if it could
>> be); its Normative
>> References include a further 80 pages of sidr I-Ds!
>>
>> One small example.  The I-Ds have several references to RPKI and indeed, that
>> appears in -arch; but it first appears on page 8 and is not even expanded, let
>
> eh.. that's a nit that someone should file... "hey, you can't use an
> acronym for the first time without actually expanding it properly!"
>
> Can you cite the proper para/page/section on this so the authors can fix it?
>
> -Chris
>
>> alone explained.  Of course you can turn to Wikipedia and you find a clear
>> explanation of what RPKI is but you should not need Wikipedia to understand
>> something as important as sidr.  This I-D seems to be written to be understood
>> by those who understand it:-(
>>
>> Tom Petch
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "The IESG" <iesg-secretary at ietf.org>
>> To: "IETF-Announce" <ietf-announce at ietf.org>
>> Cc: <sidr@xxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 5:14 PM
>> Subject: [sidr] Last Call: <draft-ietf-sidr-arch-11.txt> (An Infrastructure to
>>
>>
>>>
>>> The IESG has received a request from the Secure Inter-Domain Routing WG
>>> (sidr) to consider the following document:
>>> - 'An Infrastructure to Support Secure Internet Routing'
>>>   <draft-ietf-sidr-arch-11.txt> as an Informational RFC
>>>
>>> The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
>>> final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
>>> ietf at ietf.org mailing lists by 2011-02-21. Exceptionally, comments may be
>>> sent to iesg at ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the
>>> beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting.
>>>
>>> The file can be obtained via
>>> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sidr-arch/
>>>
>>> IESG discussion can be tracked via
>>> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sidr-arch/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The following IPR Declarations may be related to this I-D:
>>>
>>> /ipr/1204/
>>>
>>
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