Re: [79all] IETF Badge

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Ole,
I took your TSA reference as hyperbole referring to strict enforcement of a badge requirement. I apologize if I misunderstood. I don't think anyone would dispute that the level of "badge enforcement" and "security" was substantively different than any other IETF, and this is what I was referring to. I was also voicing support for the old badge enforcement policy for future meetings.

(I also support less restrictions on the issuing of visas, at least for IETF attendees, but there's not much I/we can do about that either.)

Lou

On 11/15/2010 5:47 PM, Ole Jacobsen wrote:

Lou,

I see. So you had to take off your shoes, leave water behind and be
frisked and/or scanned at this meeting? I can't say I went to every
meeting room, but I did not notice any of that going on.

Also, when I say "suggesting" it's sort of meant to be a forward
looking statement not some idea that what we had will be the new
norm. I'd love to not have to write this down, but if I did it
would be something along the lines of "Entrance to IETF meetings
is for registered attendeed, wear you badge at all times, you may
be challenged if you don't do so." And maybe add specifics as
was done in this case.

I agree that this was a great meeting, thanks to the host and everyone
else involved including the hotel staff!

Ole

Ole J. Jacobsen
Editor and Publisher,  The Internet Protocol Journal
Cisco Systems
Tel: +1 408-527-8972   Mobile: +1 415-370-4628
E-mail: ole@xxxxxxxxx  URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj



On Mon, 15 Nov 2010, Lou Berger wrote:

Humm, seeing that's what we just had, I'm not sure where you're coming from.

BTW I don't think there was any real surprise in this, and it doesn't diminish
from our local hosts' fabulous job.  I thank them for their efforts and
hospitality.

Lou

On 11/15/2010 2:44 PM, Ole Jacobsen wrote:

On Mon, 15 Nov 2010, Lou Berger wrote:

Xiangsong,
	I suspect you may have misunderstood me.  I'm endorsing the old
practice of letting in (to meetings) any who wish *without* payment or
badge.
Sure they won't be able to go into the terminal room, but that isn't a
significant issue.  Them eating the snacks could possibly turn into an
issue,
but it hasn't to date.

Lou

I am sure this happens already to some extent and I don't think it's
an issue (having a guest speaker, someone who wants to find out about
a specific working group, whatever...). So long as this does not turn
into a way to abuse the system, I don't think anyone is suggesting TSA
style security at our meetings.

Ole


Ole J. Jacobsen
Editor and Publisher,  The Internet Protocol Journal
Cisco Systems
Tel: +1 408-527-8972   Mobile: +1 415-370-4628
E-mail: ole@xxxxxxxxx  URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj












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