On Nov 11, 2010, at 7:27 PM, Marc Manthey wrote: > welcome friends of remote partizipating and to all IETF members in bejing > > whats new in the remote partizipants / multiconferencing world ? > > Google aquired marratech a few years ago [ 1 ] , cisco aquired webex , [ 2 ] paltalk aquired camfrog [ 3 ] > Adobe unveils Connect 8 Web and videconferencing tool set [ 4 ], Xcast is there but very quiet [ 5 ] > VP8 a fantastic codec is there, its opensource [ 6 ] Nokia bought Trolltech and its opensource now [ 7 ] > > #Ipv6 is on the way, will there be ipv6 multicast ? There has always been ipv6 multicast. > > Who wants to pay 70.000 $ per year for webex, who wants to pay 40.000 $ per year for a so called "opensource" multiconferencing like DIMDIM ? > > Who wants to pay 1295 $ per month for a paltalk room ? > > So there is still no "cool" functioning opensource multi - conferencing out there for the masses after 10 years . ! > > We´ve made a little feature list about what we think , what might be "cool". This is a huge project, and it is not entirely clear to me whether this is appropriate for the IETF. The first thing you have to decide is whether this is a SIP based project or a H.323 based project. SIP is more appropriate for the IETF. There are various H.323 open source projects out there, including GnuGK, H323Plus and XMeeting. > > Feel free to edit the document without registration and tell us what you think is necessary and required to make it a step ahead http://on.let.de/aWfo0M The IETF primarily communicates by Internet-drafts. Detailed work of this sort also shouldn't be done on the general IETF list. You might want to consider having a bar-BOF on this subject at the Prague IETF. Regards Marshall > > I am looking forward for some comments and insights about why only cisco/ polycom/ tandberg / radvision tells us that > " Video/ multiconferencing at home " will be the next BIG thing. > > regards > > and warm greetings from germany > > Marc Manthey > > > > [ 1 ] http://techcrunch.com/2007/04/20/google-acquires-marratech-gets-into-webex-territory/ > [ 2 ] http://newsroom.cisco.com/dlls/2007/corp_031507b.html > [ 3 ] http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/Paltalk-Acquires-Video-Chat-Provider-Camfrog-1338260.htm > [ 4 ] http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9194239/Adobe_unveils_Connect_8_Web_and_videconferencing_tool_set?taxonomyId=16 > [ 5 ] http://www.xcast.jp/ > [ 6 ] http://www.webmproject.org/ > [ 7 ] http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2008/01/nokia-buys-trolltech-will-become-a-patron-of-kde.ars > > > -- > Les enfants teribbles - research / deployment > Marc Manthey- Vogelsangerstrasse 97 > 50823 Köln - Germany > Tel.:0049-221-29891489 > Mobil:0049-1577-3329231 > blog: http://let.de > project : http://opencu.org > twitter: http://twitter.com/macbroadcast/ > facebook : http://opencu.tk > > > Opinions expressed may not even be mine by the time you read them, and certainly don't reflect those of any other entity (legal or otherwise). > > _______________________________________________ > NOTE WELL: This list operates according to > http://mipassoc.org/dkim/ietf-list-rules.html. > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/vmeet > _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf