welcome friends of remote partizipating and to all IETF members in bejing whats new in the remote partizipants / multiconferencing world ? Google aquired marratech a few years ago [ 1 ] , cisco aquired webex , [ 2 ] paltalk aquired camfrog [ 3 ] Adobe unveils Connect 8 Web and videconferencing tool set [ 4 ], Xcast is there but very quiet [ 5 ] VP8 a fantastic codec is there, its opensource [ 6 ] Nokia bought Trolltech and its opensource now [ 7 ] #Ipv6 is on the way, will there be ipv6 multicast ? Who wants to pay 70.000 $ per year for webex, who wants to pay 40.000 $ per year for a so called "opensource" multiconferencing like DIMDIM ? Who wants to pay 1295 $ per month for a paltalk room ? So there is still no "cool" functioning opensource multi - conferencing out there for the masses after 10 years . ! We´ve made a little feature list about what we think , what might be "cool". Feel free to edit the document without registration and tell us what you think is necessary and required to make it a step ahead http://on.let.de/aWfo0M I am looking forward for some comments and insights about why only cisco/ polycom/ tandberg / radvision tells us that " Video/ multiconferencing at home " will be the next BIG thing. regards and warm greetings from germany Marc Manthey [ 1 ] http://techcrunch.com/2007/04/20/google-acquires-marratech-gets-into-webex-territory/ [ 2 ] http://newsroom.cisco.com/dlls/2007/corp_031507b.html [ 3 ] http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/Paltalk-Acquires-Video-Chat-Provider-Camfrog-1338260.htm [ 4 ] http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9194239/Adobe_unveils_Connect_8_Web_and_videconferencing_tool_set?taxonomyId=16 [ 5 ] http://www.xcast.jp/ [ 6 ] http://www.webmproject.org/ [ 7 ] http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2008/01/nokia-buys-trolltech-will-become-a-patron-of-kde.ars -- Les enfants teribbles - research / deployment Marc Manthey- Vogelsangerstrasse 97 50823 Köln - Germany Tel.:0049-221-29891489 Mobil:0049-1577-3329231 blog: http://let.de project : http://opencu.org twitter: http://twitter.com/macbroadcast/ facebook : http://opencu.tk Opinions expressed may not even be mine by the time you read them, and certainly don't reflect those of any other entity (legal or otherwise). _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf