> TJ [trejrco@xxxxxxxxx] wrote: > I would be quite curious to know your definition of failure, given that > IPsec is currently deployed, and working in "more than a few" deployments > On a possibly related note, IPv6 use deployed and working too ... Failure means that, I leave in the capital city of California and I can't find a single ISP that offers native IPv6. We're in the end of 2010. And no change in sight. Tunnels? Oh yes tunnels. I had that 10 years ago. You call that deployed? Michel. _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf