Re: Alternate entry document model (was: Re: IETF processes (was Re: draft-housley-two-maturity-levels))

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>>>>> "Andrew" == Andrew Sullivan <ajs@xxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
    Andrew> On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 01:20:23PM -0700, SM wrote:
    >> It would be difficult to get buy-in if the document is not
    >> published as a RFC.

    Andrew> Supppse we actually have the following problems:

    Andrew>     1.  People think that it's too hard to get to PS.
    Andrew> (Never mind the competing anecdotes.  Let's just suppose
    Andrew> this is true.)

    Andrew>     2.  People think that PS actually ought to mean
    Andrew> "Proposed" and not "Permanent".  (i.e. people want a sort of
    Andrew> immature-ish level for standards so that it's possible to
    Andrew> build and deploy something interoperable without first
    Andrew> proving that it will never need to change.)

    Andrew>     3.  We want things to move along and be Internet
    Andrew> STANDARDs.

    Andrew>     4.  Most of the world thinks "RFC" == "Internet
    Andrew> Standard".

    Andrew> If all of those things are right and we're actually trying
    Andrew> to solve them all, then it seems to me that the answer is
    Andrew> indeed to move to _n_ maturity levels of RFC, where _n_ < 3
    Andrew> (I propose 1), but that we introduce some new document
    Andrew> series (call them TRFC, for "Tentative Request For Comment",
    Andrew> or whatever) that is the first step.  Then we get past the
    Andrew> thing that people are optimizing for ("everything stays as
    Andrew> Proposed Standard once it gets published") by simply
    Andrew> eliminating that issue permanently.

I think this is a workable idea.
But, instead of calling things TRFCXXXX, let's do something less
glamorous and give it hash... maybe based upon the sha1 of the document
or something.  TRFC-ipsec-4d66-1618-00bbd99b.txt :-)

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