Scott, I'm confused about one thing you say: On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Scott O. Bradner <sob@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I think the community should only change its processes with careful deliberation > taking into account the interplay of the different factors ... > I think it is better to not fiddle, even if the current documents > do not paint an accurate picture, I think we need to be serious > when changing our basic rules. You seem to be saying that we have to carefully deliberate, consider many factors, and be serious if we want to *change* the basic rules... but that it's OK to *ignore* the basic rules and do whatever we want, with no deliberation, consideration, or seriousness (this is what we're doing now). As I see it, the reason we need to do *something* here -- and I think Russ's proposal is a good start for it -- is exactly that we're largely ignoring those basic rules and making up a new system without serious consideration. Barry _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf