Hi,
Huh? Hardly anyone support IPv6 these days. Sony KDL40*X70* internet-enabled LED-LCD-TV, 2010, IPv4-only (bought 7/2010)
My TV is "bought 2009" and doesn't have any internet at all. And I don't care (much). It's a TV. Of all my gadgets, the TV is on my lowest priority for getting an IPv6 connectivity.
Western Digital MyBookWorld2 HomeNAS, 2009, IPv4-only
I don't mean to criticise your buying decision, but if you are so serious about IPv6 connectivity, why didn't you just buy a QNAP device? Comes with IPv6 just fine.
Nintendo WII appears to be IPv4-only
I do mean to criticise your buying decision: Playstation rocks :-) No, it won't give you IPv6 either; but it gets close to the TV argument. Probably my PS3 and TV will be dead (or administratively obsoleted) before I get headaches about them not reaching IPv6-only Firmware Update services etc. - because these devices still do dual-stack just fine.
most home users in Germany can not even get IPv6 from their ISP, even when they had an IPv6-capable DSL-router.
Excuse me, but this is completely 1990s argumentation. I have native IPv4+IPv6 with a commodity DSL provider since years. 2006, IIRC. And my own /48 with it. And the operator works Germany wide. With reasonable costs; my flatrate costs 9,50 EUR per month (though that's a legacy tariff, you can't order it any more). If you want IPv6, just go order it. I keep hearing this very argument over and over again - and it is simply not at all true; at least not in Germany.
I'm not affiliated with the provider, other than being a satisfied customer: http://www.titan-dsl.de
What capabilities there are available on the internet backbone or what could be enabled on newer operating systems by sophisticated end users doesn't matter much, if most of the "internet-enabled" end user equipment, that is being sold to consumers, is still IPv4-only.
Windows 7: enabled by default. Mac OS: enabled by default. Linux: whatever your distro does. I fail to see your point.
What we desperately need is factory-enabled transparent internetworking on all _NEW_ networking equipment and internet-enabled gadgets and appliances. As long as IPv4 and IPv6 are seperate worlds the hen-and-egg stalemate is going to continue. And the useful lifetime of all brand-new IPv4-only equipment that is produced by the electronic entertainment industry is about 5-15 years.
The main point that needs attention is router equipment, IMHO. There's a Fritz!Box beta firmware for IPv6 right now; when it's final, pushing that out will fix the deployment of IPv6 for most of Germany (as they happen to be quite popular there).
Dates are arguable, but: I suspect it will be + 15 years before content providers will switch to IPv6-only. If they do so before, this will reduce the "useful lifetime" of your already-bought electronics a bit. Hooray for the industry: they can sell new stuff to you then. That kind of thinking is probably not what you as a customer appreciate, but it's just fine if seen from the other side :-)
Stefan
-Martin _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
-- Stefan WINTER Ingenieur de Recherche Fondation RESTENA - Réseau Téléinformatique de l'Education Nationale et de la Recherche 6, rue Richard Coudenhove-Kalergi L-1359 Luxembourg Tel: +352 424409 1 Fax: +352 422473 _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf