Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic?

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X.25 was a disaster area. I watched someone trying to code a PAD in 1984, took him months to realize that the reason it did not work is that the spec did not correspond to the bits on the wire.

The idea for X.25 certainly did not come out of BBN or the ARPANET. Many groups round the world were looking at computer networking schemes in the 1970s. X.25 was a consensus that emerged from a group of (mostly) European engineers.

Far from being an incremental evolution of the ARPANET, Orange Book was essentially Spock with Beard. The ARPANET was a research network whose development was mostly led by academics with some input from corporations. Coloured Books was a commercial network from the start and development was led by telephone company engineers with occasional academics.


X.25 was a direct descendant of the capabilities of the (then) planned System X digital telephone system in the UK and similar systems in France and Germany.


On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Sep 14, 2010, at 5:08 PM, Richard Bennett wrote:

> I wonder how many people realize that X.25 was a direct descendant of ARPANET, and that BB&N became a leading supplier of X.25 hardware simply by continuing the IMP down its evolutionary path.

I was at BBN at the time this was going on.  BBN implemented X.25 because it needed a "standardized" interface to the network instead of BBN's proprietary 1822 interface and choose X.25.  X.25 was developed in parallel to the Arpanet and I disagree that it "was a direct descendant of ARPANET".  It has a very different interface (connection oriented vs. message oriented) that IMHO was not an improvement.

Bob

p.s. I suggest that BBN use Ethernet instead but that didn't get any traction.  I am pretty sure the world would be different had they followed my suggestion.


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