For various reasons, I have participated in the last 3 meetings "remotely."
While I am very grateful for the technical tools (streaming audio, jabber room, etc.) that make such "remote participation" possible, it is in no way a substitute for the greater level of interaction I get when attending the meeting in person.
Furthermore, I am willing to get up a 3 AM (my time) to "attend" a WG in which I already have an active interest. But I am less likely to get up at 3 AM for a WG that "sounds as if it MIGHT be interesting". When I am there in person, I am more likely to go to that "MIGHT be interesting" meeting.
Janet
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| From: | "James M. Polk" <jmpolk@xxxxxxxxx> |
| To: | Hascall Sharp <chsharp@xxxxxxxxx>, ietf@xxxxxxxx, olaf@xxxxxxxxxxxx |
| Date: | 09/07/2010 04:47 PM |
| Subject: | Re: Optimizing for what? Was Re: IETF Attendance by continent |
At 05:45 PM 9/3/2010, Hascall Sharp wrote:
>On 8/30/10 3:57 PM, Olaf Kolkman wrote:
>...snip...
>>
>>Am I missing something?
>...snip...
>
>Yes. The IETF is having too many meetings where physical presence
>is required in order to participate effectively in the work.
Creating the ability to mimic or replicate the effectiveness of a WG
meeting is only part of the benefit of attendance at an IETF. Many
of us that have been going there for years and years have the benefit
of chance/rendezvous meetings in the hallway to discuss a topic
- that we didn't know was being discussed, or
- that we may now find ourselves in the middle of, or
- that a small group might want to have outside of the main
discussion area/session, or
- etc
Many of us have lots of ideas bantering around in our heads between
meetings (or that have been dormant for a while) that this type of
chance meeting could generate something of a meeting-of-the-minds
about starting something new or something different that how it's done now.
Many newcomers - whether this is their actual first meeting or just
in their first few meetings - actively or passively seek out certain
individuals for the possibility of having such a planned chance
meeting in a hallway.
None of this can effectively be done with IETF meetings moving to
webex or worse, only on email.
That said - I fully understand the financial burdens on people or
corporations during non-robust years of economic (non) growth, such
as we're in the middle of.
JMO, which could be wrong
James
>It seems to me that IETF is going in the wrong direction in terms of meetings.
>
>But maybe I'm getting old and cranky and everyone else has an ever
>expanding travel budget.
>
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