--On Tuesday, August 31, 2010 13:54 -0400 Noel Chiappa <jnc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > From: Fernando Gont <fernando@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > As far as I recall *reading* (I wasn't around at the > time :-) ) email > was a couple of FTP commands? > > That was more back in the NCP days (prior to TCP/IP). SMTP > came in about the time TCP/IP was really starting to roll > (don't recall the exact timing, but it would have been circa > 1980 or so). Yes. But, regardless of whether one counts from FTP-based email or from SMTP, the statement that email was the only application is simply nonsense. Telnet was alive and well, FTP was heavily used (and I trust it is obvious that we could have had FTP-based email without FTP), user and system information protocols like finger and whois were around and in use, and so were a bunch of things that are "applications" or not depending on one's definitions and a fairly large collection of applications (not just applications-support protocols) built directly on TCP (or NCP, or later on various socket layers) whose descriptions never made it into the RFC series. john _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf