Re: Meeting Venue Preference Survey

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+1 on all of the analysis/ observations below.  Couldn't say it
better myself and have tried.

   john

--On Sunday, August 29, 2010 17:10 -0700 Dave CROCKER
<dhc@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> 
>> At the risk of turning this into a string of competing
>> anectdotes
> 
> 
> It turned into that long ago.  In terms of the tone in these
> discussions, folk continue to believe that their personal
> experiences are relevant for deciding logistics policy in
> choosing IETF meetings.
> 
> Unfortunately, such folk constitute a remarkably skewed sample
> of what is typically touted as the target population of IETF
> attendees.
> 
> The premise to these anecdotes appears to be that IETF
> meetings are designed for people who have:
> 
>    * hefty corporate travel funding        -- so money is
> largely no object
>    * extensive travel experience           -- therefore
> accepting requirements
>                                               to handle
> complex travel details
>    * frequent travel schedules             -- so extraneous,
> 1/2-day incremental
>                                               time and cost
> doesn't mean much
>    * a full week at the meeting            -- so remote
> locations have minor
>                                               impact
>    * a desire to use meetings for tourism  -- which is more
> important than venue
>                                               convenience or
> reliability
>    * complete lack of empathy for anyone not fitting into this
> category
> 
> "Lack of empathy" is typically being demonstrated by overt
> hostility, but certainly dismissive handwaves.  The concerns
> of others simply do not matter and are to be classed as petty,
> naive, or the like.
> 
> It's difficult to imagine a more elitist demographic,
> particular for a community that has been predicated on
> diversity and inclusiveness.
> 
> At the least, the IETF should be honest and re-cast its
> community culture as being tailored for well-funded
> professional meeting goers...
> 
> d/




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