|
Ole Jacobsen [mailto:ole@xxxxxxxxx]
writes: > On Sun, 29 Aug 2010, Yoav Nir wrote: > > > > Hopefully. But only the two hotels listed there
have agreements and > > special rates for IETF attendants. In
Maastricht there were a lot of > > hotels with special rates, so a lot were
listed. > > Yeah, and people (as usual) complained that they
could get much better > rates outside the IETF block. Can't win that one. Perhaps not (there will always
be a Motel 6 or some such down the road), but that’s not the question
& definitely not the problem. The question is why, when the IETF has
essentially promised to fill the Shangri-La Beijing for the week, is it possible
to book a room on the Shangri-La Web site right now for the entire week of the
meeting at less than the IETF rate? The question is why I was able
to book a room @ the Hiroshima hotel for less than half the IETF rate (admittedly
w/o breakfast; was the “free” breakfast worth ~$80/day?). The
problem is that, eventually, the IETF will no longer be able to fill the
conference hotel because of the outrageous rates “negotiated”.
IEEE 802 has already run into this and has had to resort to offering a meeting
fee discount to those who spend at least one night in the conference
hotel. The IEEE got into that position, I’m told, thanks to the
corruption of a meeting scheduler who locked them into a particular hotel chain
for many years in advance in return for valuable kickbacks. What is the
IETF excuse? > > > > > In all those locations this was not a problem,
but I don't know how > > to spot a fleabag hotel in China. I believe I
can do this in the US > > or Europe. > > Lonely Planet? Google? Ask someone who has been
there? Wait a couple > of weeks and see what the host comes up with? Again, that’s not the
problem: in about an hour I was able to come up with half a dozen 4*+ hotels as
close or closer to the Shangri-La than the official overflow hotel @ a maximum
rate of $72/night (for a new, deluxe 2 bdrm apartment). Why should I have
to? Again, we’re basically promising to fill the hotel for a week
in November; that’s worth money to the hotel but we don’t seem to
be seeing any of it. I’ve even been told that the IETF has recently
been paying for the use of meeting rooms @ the conference hotel. Why? … |
_______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf