>In fact, from western Europe, I see the USA as cheaper and easier to >get to than say Vienna or Maastricht (look back at all those posts >about which train to catch, which country to arrive in, how to pay >fares etc ) The US is a big place. Even the eastern US is a big place. I think it'd be a swell plan to meet in Ithaca, New York, where I live (it has some pretty good facilities at Cornell University and Ithaca College) but when you tried to get here, you'd be saying why can't we meet some place convenient, like Maastricht? With respect to Canada, for transport purposes you have to divide it into two sections, Toronto, and everywhere else. Getting to Toronto is a snap. Getting to anywhere else generally means changing planes in Toronto. R's, John _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf