Spencer Dawkins wrote: > My understanding is that Minneapolis kind of fell off the truck due to > problems with IETF attendees getting US visas, and not because of other > considerations. We've met there a lot in the past 10 or so years. People > complained, but not in ways that prevented us from meeting there > repeatedly. > > So if we were going to quantify savings based on return visits, could I > suggest that we pick another place to quantify (perhaps "Vancouver" - > we've been there a couple of times lately, and I happen to be sitting in > a hotel right now - but anyplace outside the US would work for the > concern I was raising). If the motivation for "anyplace outside the US" is that of problems with getting US visas, then I'd say that Canada is no panacea in that respect, either. One might even argue on the contrary: I got an US visa that's valid for ten years, spanning the life of two passports (you just need to bring the old and current passport). However, at least the Canadian embassy n Buenos Aires (Argentina) won't issue a visa that is valid past the life of your current passport (so during the last year I had to apply twice to get a Canadian visa, even when I visited Canada in two consecutive months). The requirements for applying to an US or Canadian visa are similar (at least in practice). Probably the only difference is that for the US visa you need to plan things way in advance (e.g., you need to schedule an appointment, whereas for the canadian visa you need not). Thanks, -- Fernando Gont e-mail: fernando@xxxxxxxxxxx || fgont@xxxxxxx PGP Fingerprint: 7809 84F5 322E 45C7 F1C9 3945 96EE A9EF D076 FFF1 _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf