In Minneapolis, once upon a time, "we" (the IETF secretariat at the time) invested something in the order of $10k or $15k for a fiberlink between <somwhere in the basement> to <somewhere more useful> in the Hilton Hotel which "we" had a recurring contract for and which "we" ammortized over several visits. It's still not a bad venue, visas notwithstanding, and getting there may or may not be "one hop" depending on where you are coming from. Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@xxxxxxxxx URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Spencer Dawkins wrote: > I'm sure other people remember this, but ... > > > > I know you meant it in jest, but to be clear to everyone else, qualifying > > > a new venue is a lot of work. > > > > One point raised during the plenary is that we might be able to save > > money if we regularly return to a given venue. Is it possible to > > quantify those savings based on experience in, say, Minneapolis? > > My understanding is that Minneapolis kind of fell off the truck due to > problems with IETF attendees getting US visas, and not because of other > considerations. We've met there a lot in the past 10 or so years. People > complained, but not in ways that prevented us from meeting there repeatedly. > > So if we were going to quantify savings based on return visits, could I > suggest that we pick another place to quantify (perhaps "Vancouver" - we've > been there a couple of times lately, and I happen to be sitting in a hotel > right now - but anyplace outside the US would work for the concern I was > raising). > > Spencer > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > > _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf