Mark, On 8/9/10 2:41 AM, Mark Nottingham wrote: > I don't subscribe to the notion that shutting everyone into a confererence centre-cum-campus with all amenities onsite (and a corresponding dearth of other options, e.g. Minneapolis or Anaheim) is going to lead to higher productivity. I would disagree with the characterization of Minneapolis having a 'corresponding dearth of other options'. There's a lot of stuff local to the area, for those who step out, and there is an entire other Twin city with lots of other stuff that is but a short cab ride away. More importantly, even if that were true, I have now attended a conference where I would say there as a lot of productivity precisely because it was an "all in one" site. People were easily accessible to one another. The meeting lasted two weeks, and required lots of face to face time with many different pairs of individuals, literally running from about 7:00am – 9:00pm daily. A lot of work did get done in small side meetings in small rooms. The difference between this meeting and the IETF is that most people don't have those side rooms. There were some other logistical differences. For one, lunch was included in the conference. That can be sorted. This conference was similar in size to the IETF, and the meeting took place in Hyderabad, India. Eliot _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf