>>>>> "Michael" == Michael StJohns <mstjohns@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes: Michael> Fred said this much more eloquently than I could. Michael> On the IETF78 attendees list there's been a lot of Michael> discussion about where to meet - with the primary Michael> consideration seeming to be "pretty and small". I may be Michael> in the minority, but I'd really rather the IETF go places Michael> where the ability to "get work done" is the primary Michael> consideration. Yeah, I'm all for meeting in Europe once a year, but does it have to be in the peak of Summer? Seriously. As long as I'm in a hotel conference centre all day, I might as well be north of the Artic Circle in November. Michael> So going forward, I hope the considerations for location Michael> will give higher weight to meeting the needs of the folks Michael> doing the work (my second list of folk) and the folks who Michael> keep coming back (the first list) than to the single Michael> meeting snap shots. Its possible the demographics for my Michael> two lists are similar to the raw demographics so my point Michael> may be moot - but why guess when we have the data? A good question. -- ] He who is tired of Weird Al is tired of life! | firewalls [ ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON |net architect[ ] mcr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/ |device driver[ Kyoto Plus: watch the video <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzx1ycLXQSE> then sign the petition. _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf