-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/30/2010 06:53 AM, Fred Baker wrote: > > On Jul 30, 2010, at 12:28 AM, Scott Brim wrote: > >> So I can't complain about the get-togethers of any sort, just that there wasn't enough time for them. I would like to encourage the use of IETF tools to announce ad hoc discussions using good teleconferencing tools, e.g. video, whiteboard, and queue management. > > And that's the point I'm trying to get to. They have all been valuable. I do very much wish that those promoting them had done a better job of fitting them into the schedule rather than simply dropping them atop it, and in some cases remote conferencing tools will be useful choices. but if they were al nicely scheduled alongside each other, you might feel forced to attend even more meetings... In fact, I was quite surprised to find the Bar Bof announcement page, which kind of seems to go against the whole idea of it (eg you don't want to exclude anyone, but you certainly don't want too many people to show up) I held an unofficial meeting this week, and hope to have a real BoF next IETF, but I did not put it on the announcement page (on purpose), and in fact i kind of felt forced to call it a 'pre-bar-bof-meeting' because bar-bof already feels too official. IMHO, if you make it more official, you'll only extend the process, which will result in another level of meetings, and even fuller schedules. Jelte -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxSilMACgkQ4nZCKsdOncXhJwCfdahzXTk0ZZyEShk6Pqwx3eHa DKUAoKbASKuQ7rUS/jzr0LMJjvSEuATn =uCfn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf