On Jul 30, 2010, at 3:11 AM, Mary Barnes wrote:
Just to add my two cents to this discussion from a (past) noncom
chair perpsective, having more experienced IETF participants on the
Nomcom helps tremendously. It makes it far easier for the noncom
chair and non-voting members (previous nomcom chair and liaisons) to
stick to the roles as specified in RFC 3777 in terms of facilitatng
and ensuring the integrity of the process and not influencing the
decisions of the nomcom. In the end, each voting member gets one
vote (using a methodology agreed by the voting members), so the
positives of ensuring the nomcom has experienced members far
outweigh any perceived negatives in my experience.
I was discussing this with various people yesterday - maybe it would
be useful to have a "moving average" NOMCOM, with a two year term, and
50% replacement each year. Once that was set up, I think that the need
for experienced hands would diminish - one year on the NOMCOM seems to
be quite a bit of experience.
Regards
Marshall
Thanks,
Mary.
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Dave,
> John,
>
> On 7/24/2010 2:24 PM, John Leslie wrote:
> > How can we impose additional
> > experience requirements on some NomCom members without implying
that
> > we want their opinions to be considered "better"?
>
> I've been on 3 Nomcoms. Voting members with experience are typically
> notable, but those without have yet to show anything I'd call
"deference"
> or "intimidation". On the average, IETF participants are each and
all
> rather independent-minded and painfully unintimidated by folks with
> extensive experience.
>
> During a discussion among members, being able to cite experience
when
> offering an opinion helps, but I haven't seen anything that looked
like
> inherently preferential position because a member has more
experience.
> Decisions still require making a good case for a position.
I'll be the IAB's liaison to NomCom this year, but I haven't served
on a
NomCom previously. You're addressing a concern I had (and I don't
think I
was the only one) about part of the committee deferring to more
experienced
participants.
I hadn't heard anyone saying "not a problem in my experience"
previously.
Good to know.
Thank you.
Spencer
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