On 2010-07-30 08:47, Dave CROCKER wrote: > > > On 7/29/2010 10:00 PM, Fred Baker wrote: >> If we're going to continue this avalanche of ad hoc meetings that we call >> "Bar BOFs", I would recommend that the Secretariat provide a web page for >> requesting them. The title of the web page should be "Poorly Planned >> Meetings" or something like that. > > > In other words, let's make unofficial, ad hoc meetings be formal and > scheduled. > > Fred, like you, I'm delighted to see the activity. However just because > there is interest in having formal, scheduled activities that are not > qualified to be BOFs, we do not need to have IETF administration support > them with extra services. Let's let these self-initiated efforts remain > what they are. If they can garner attendees, that's fine. If they > can't, better luck next time. Even with the excellent title you > suggest, the web page will move these activities down the slippery slope > of formality. > > The way to make a more rational schedule for the week is to schedule > less, not more. I learned a lesson in, now where was it?, oh yes, Anaheim. I decided to have a Bar BOF, decided that the Hilton bar really wasn't convenient, borrowed a room from Marcia, invited a few people, was asked to advertise it on the wiki, and ended up with every seat taken in quite a big room. The discussion was good, but not overwhelmingly successful, and a lot of people just sat there quietly. (Admittedly, there was very little else to do in Anaheim for those over ten years old.) I wish it had just been six of us at the bar. Brian _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf