Hi, I'm only going to comment on the suggested changes to the BCP. The other recommendations all seem to be reasonable additions to the general guidance for future Nomcoms. > RECOMMENDATION -- Selective Exclusion > > * The Nomcom Chair may selectively exclude any participant from a single Nomcom activity. This action may be overridden by a majority of Nomcom Voting Members. In my own (limited) Nomcom experience I didn't see a case where this would be relevant. In fact, it seems more likely that an individual would tend to dominate *all* discussions, and this rule doesn't allow for exclusion of a member from all activity. However, I guess it does allow for handling a case of clear prejudice for or against a particular candidate. I would suggest building in a bit more check-and-balance by making it * The Nomcom Chair may, after consulting with the previous Nomcom Chair, selectively exclude... > RECOMMENDATION -- Selection Pool > > * There needs to be assurance of a minimum presence of Nomcom voting members who have meaningful knowledge of IETF "decision and leadership processes". > * Therefore, create a second pool of volunteers who satisfy more stringent Nomcom participation rules. > * Volunteers in this 'expertise' pool must have been on the IESG, IAB or IAOC/Trust, or have been a working group chair. These positions require a degree of direct involvement in the process of IETF leadership. > * Three (3) volunteers from the 'expertise' pool are selected first. Those who are not selected from that pool are then added to the general pool of volunteers, for the second round of selection. Nomcom is not limited to having only three of its members be experienced. > * (Implementation) This is a formal change to Nomcom selection rules, which will require a modification to RFC 3777. I wouldn't seriously object to this proposal, but it doesn't help with a related fundamental problem that we have: asking engineers to select other engineers for managerial (IESG), strategic (IAB) and business/legal (IAOC/Trust) jobs. The problem with putting engineers in such positions is that they tend to do engineering, sometimes known as micro-management. Quite what we can do about this I don't know, but including three engineers in Nomcom who have personal experience of micro-managing isn't going to fix it ;-). > RECOMMENDATION -- Confidentiality Agreement > > * Everyone participating in Nomcom needs to sign a formal Confidentiality Agreement. Good idea. > RECOMMENDATION -- Interview Monitoring > > * Liaisons must not sit in on interviews without a specific invitation.... I do agree that the liaisons have no place in the interview process, but I found this section confusing as to exactly what is proposed as a change to the BCP. Regards Brian Carpenter _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf