Todd, I just read the ruling on this and am confused as to why you would think this applies to DNSSEC rather than DNS (or other information systems). The reason this case was unable to proceed and the evidence was rejected seems to be because of the police handling of the system and witness. The ruling specifically states that video/evidence capture devices are still admissible (See section II "analysis") as long as timeline and/or "reasonable representation of what it is alleged to portray." is available. The problem is that the officer made available to the court had no firsthand knowledge of the incident, no understanding of the system, no knowledge of the time of information handling, and no internal knowledge of the development / testing of the system. Either this applies everywhere and DNSSEC is not unique or it applies nowhere as the data path will be further confirmed by administrator/operator knowledge. Can you explain in more detail with specific references as to how this applies to DNSSEC or IS systems as a whole. I fail to see your concern. Also, operations is separate from prosecution. DNSSEC has other purposes than prosecution and can most certainly be operated within this ruling. I don't personally see issues with prosecution as long as the witnesses understand and explain how the situation was handled. BTW, the appeals case number I read is: 30-2009-00304893. Please let me know if there is another case you are referencing. Peter On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 3:56 PM, todd glassey <tglassey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Folks - there is a Court Ruling from the 4th Appellate District which > is turning off Red Light Camera's everywhere and there is a question as > to whether that ruling would also effect how Secure DNS Services are run > and if so what would it do. > > The ruling is called California v Khaled and is getting significant > traction here in the State of California in all courts. > > Todd > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf