On 7/9/2010 4:32 AM, Hannes Tschofenig wrote: > Hi Bob, > > just a very quick reaction to your mail: > > ~snip~ >> I have issues with the Introduction. The first sentence says: >> >> In keeping with the goals and objectives of this standards body, the >> IETF is committed to the highest degree of respect for the privacy of >> IETF participants and site visitors. >> >> This makes it sound like the highest priority of the IETF is Privacy. I >> don't think this is true as I described above. The vast majority of what >> the IETF does in Public. There is very little that is Private. The IETF is >> careful about what needs to be kept private and does not disclose it Everything you have said is true but in this case the specific use of the privacy policy is in this case to provide people who are slammed with SPAM from people illegally harvesting contact information from IETF postings and mailing list activity to create their own personal commercial email lists and NOT to protect their identity or who they represent... You cannot take that away from them no matter what - and since the IETF in its raging toothless manner fails to protect that data itself, it is up to the IETF to enable everyone else to protect themselves from damage which occurs to them by being in the IETF. Also on the other side of the privacy coin, you will find that EVERYONE here has a formal legal right to know who everyone else is representing in the IETF meaning that there is no direct privacy control possible. Todd Glassey _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf