Hi Randy, > [ fwiw, i am not bothered if some folk well-versed in such things > develop and put forth a policy about how the ietf treats data > about members, attendees, network, ... ] > > > And "yes" we have researchers looking into the traffic, people storing > > all sorts of data, etc. > > we do? about our traffic on the ietf meeting network? stuff other than > the _ephemeral_ data the noc ops use to manage the network? Yes, the IETF meeting network. > > as far as i know > > o data collection has been done very rarely. and when it has been, it > has been widely announced. Openness and transparency is one of the privacy principles. (but there are others...) > > o there is no plan known by the net ops to do so in maastricht or > beijing at either of those meetings. I don't know. There is no central place where I could lookup any of this info. > > o aside from issues in the wireless deployment, the data about net use > at ietf meeings seems pretty boring to me from a research view Maybe boring for you. Some consider it a very large WLAN network, some others test their favorite tunneling technology with it, etc. > > o but i am sure there are wifi spies snooping and playing. and i > suspect that they will not be very respectful of any policy put in > place. You have to see all privacy principles in combination in order for them to make sense. > > given the latter, i focus more on prudent personal net hygene and less > on prose. That's fine. Ciao Hannes > > randy _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf