On Jul 7, 2010, at 8:57 AM, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: > In the meantime, BGP and HTTP, to name just two of the protocols without which the internet and the web wouldn't exist, still don't have standard status. I think I'd probably argue that the context has changed. It wasn't *that* long ago that there were publicly-available systems with no root password that everybody knew about, too. But anyway, I don't think it's at all clear to me that navel- gazing is impeding progress on BGP or HTTP. I think it's possible that more navel-gazing may be called for, actually, to solve problems like this. I think there has been a sufficiently large number of ridiculous legal threats thrown around to suggest that getting policies nailed down and written up isn't a bad idea. Melinda _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf