On Mon, 10 May 2010, Dave CROCKER wrote: > Yes, it does stink. As nearly as I can tell, the import of having Day Passes, > in terms of other IETF participation such as being on Nomcom, was entirely > missed by the community -- that is, by all of us. We are now paying the price > for that. > But as engineers, this should come as no surprise to us. How many times have you experienced "major consequences" as the result of a "minor fix" in "some other part" of the system? I've certainly seen it too many times to count, and the combination of engineering and governance doesn't make it any less likely to happen. Personally, I think the right answer might be some kind of "attendance coefficient" based not just on "last N meetings attended" but on overall attendance record (and by implication knowledge of the IETF). So, in your case, having attended I am guessing 50 - 60 meetings or more, your coefficient would be very high even if you decided to go cheap on us and use the day pass for 5 meetings in a row. It shouldn't be too hard to come up with a simple formula for the coefficient and setting the threshold, but I have no doubt that we could over-engineer that process too :-) Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@xxxxxxxxx URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf