RE: Public musing on the nature of IETF membership and employment status

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Perhaps that would stop all of these "LOOP MAIL DETECTED" messages I keep getting back from kisa.or.kr every time I post to this (particular) email list.
Anyone else getting those?

-hadriel


> -----Original Message-----
> From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Dean Willis
> Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 3:58 PM
> 
> On Apr 6, 2010, at 2:51 PM, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:
> 
> > On 6 apr 2010, at 18:16, Mark Atwood wrote:
> >
> >> Cisco, IBM, MCI, or Linden Lab are not a "members" of the IETF.  No
> >> agency of the US government, or of any other government, is a
> >> "member" of the IETF.  No university, non-profit, PIRG, PAC, or
> >> other "concerned citizens group", is a "member" of the IETF.
> >
> >> Only individual people can be "members" of the IETF.  And
> >> "membership" is mostly defined as "who shows up on the mailing
> >> list" and "who shows up at the meetings".
> >
> > True enough, but that's only one side of the equation. Cisco, IBM,
> > etc, etc as a rule don't send their people to the IETF to support
> > the greater Minneapolis area economy or other alturistic reasons:
> > they want their people to get stuff done at the IETF. As such, an
> > IETF participant's affiliations have relevance, and should be clear
> > to all.
> >
> > Considering that, it wouldn't be the worst idea to have everyone
> > post mailing list messages from an employee email address. Then
> > again, I don't need that kind of spam exposure on even more email
> > addresses...
> 
> And considering the crap that many companies use for email servers,
> their message-deletion policies and so on, I expect there are a lot of
> people who wouldn't want that.
> 
> Flip side: I could see the IETF requiring all participants use
> ietf.org email addresses hosted on ietf.org servers with ietf.org-
> issued authentication/signature certificates, and quite possibly (with
> some exceptions) restricted delivery to/from non-IETF addresses.
> 
> --
> Dean
> 
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