Julian, One minor question. How do you use xml2rfc to edit a document when you don't have that document in xml format? For example, if it was not originally created using xml2rfc. /Stefan On 10-03-22 2:58 PM, "Julian Reschke" <julian.reschke@xxxxxx> wrote: > On 22.03.2010 22:28, Martin Rex wrote: >> ... >> With xml2rfc 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6 are all seperate, manual and painful >> steps that require all sorts of unspecified other software and require >> you to search around for information and read lots of stuff in order to >> get it working. The specific tools, their usage and the options to >> automate some steps from the above list varies significantly between OS. >> ... > > Hi Martin, > > it's clear that you're very happy with nroffedit. I have no problem with > that. > > But you paint a picture of xml2rfc that isn't totally accurate. > > There are editors with spell checking. > > There are editors with direct preview. > > Also, you need two things, exactly as for Nroffedit (xml2rfc.tcl + a TCL > impl, instead of nroffedit + Java). > > There is an alternate impl, rfc2629.xslt, which requires exactly one > file, and a browser. > >> ... >> My first encounter with TeX was in 1990 on an Amiga, and it came _with_ >> an editor where you could run your document through the TeX processor and >> get it display (DVI graphics output on screen) with a single keypress. >> Not WYSIWYG, but still quite usable. And comparing the quality of >> the printed output, none of the existing WYSIWYG solutions came even close. >> ... > > I liked Tex, too. Although I ran it on that other 68K machine. > >> In absence of an easy-to-use, single tool (preferably platform-independent) >> to take care of most of the document editing, INCLUDING visualizing >> the output, I see no value in considering an XML-based authoring >> format for I-Ds and RFCs. > > Again: use a text editor plus a web browser. > >> ... >> Even reflowing the existing paginated ASCII output should be fairly >> simple. What is missing in that output is the information about the >> necessary amount of vertical whitespace between pages when removing >> page breaks&header&footer lines. >> ... > > What's also missing is the information whether text is reflowable or not > (think ASCII artwork, program listing, tables...). > > Best regards, Julian > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf