Re: Make the Internet uncensorable to intermediate nodes

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On 3/24/2010 8:44 AM, Alessandro Vesely wrote:
> On 24/Mar/10 09:38, Spencer Dawkins wrote:
>>>> Because the IETF is about creating Intellectual Properties regarding
>>>> networksing. Not a Political Action Committee...
>>>
>>> That's the worst definition of the IETF I've ever heard! I don't
>>> believe that, and don't think ISOC believes that either.
>>
>> I would assume that if ISOC thought we were doing something besides the
>> mission described in http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3935.txt, that RFC
>> wouldn't still be BCP 95...
> 
> Yeah,
> 
>   The Internet isn't value-neutral, and neither is the IETF. 

AMEN!

> We want
>   the Internet to be useful for communities that share our commitment
>   to openness and fairness.

But the IETF is not open to opinions which vary from its core stated
opinion, and that is constrained by the people speaking for the IETF as
a whole. Its one of the key flaws in giving a technologist a voice
beyond being a technologist. As to fairness BULL SH*T. The IETF is
anything but fair or open in form.
> 
> Also, I'd never have guessed that the "IP" thing regarding networking
> that the IETF is about could be "Intellectual Property".

Then what is an IETF Standard? - it is pure intellectual property and
the refusal by the IETF to embrace that is one of the issues the IETF faces.

Todd
> 

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