On Mar 23, 2010, at 6:12 AM, Doug Ewell wrote: > Martin Rex <mrex at sap dot com> wrote: > >> If anything deserves the description "60's style document editing" then it is the current xml2rfc processing, which requires a whole bunch of extra software, lots of manual processing steps, reading of lots of documentation and plenty of time and desire for humiliation in order to test all those features through the manual self-torture process. > > I'm probably not a good data point, since I've only contributed to two RFCs, and as a software developer I don't have much problem with using multiple tools to get the job done (or with writing XML). But I have to take issue with the "humiliation and torture" scenario described by Martin. I have been staying out of this, as one of those pointless debates that happen. But here I will chime in. I do indeed use xml2rfc, and yes I installed an editor that I found helpful. It happens to be XMLMind with Bill Fenner's WYSIKN plugins. I do in fact keep a directory of current work, and I do in fact run xml2rfc on my system. It does all mostly work. The one thing that really makes it a little harder to use than, say, Word or Pages, is that I draw ASCII Art in one of a couple of other applications and have to drop it into the documents in a separate tool. It's not too hard. http://www.ipinc.net/IPv4.GIF _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf