Get a dunk tank and some of the most famous IETF trolls and charge $20 for 3 tries to get the troll on the tank. If instead of water you use frying oil, charge $500 to cover additional liabilities. My .02 J _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf