Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: >>1. I cannot print them correctly on either Windows or Mac. >>2. I cannot view them at all on the mobile device > These two issues can easily be solved by using the PDF or HTML versions. Simple plain ASCII text is just fine. >>3. I cannot enter the name of an author correctly if that name >>includes non-ASCII characters. > But even if you could, would you? That's why non ASCII characters MUST NOT be used. > I can't do anything useful with names written in anything other than > latin characters (well, maybe also Greek). Not merely Latin but pure ASCII and definitely NOT Greek. > Is the tiny benefit of having the "real" name there as a > non-normative extra really enough to change what we've been > doing for 40 years? Not at all. But say it to people who are insisting to use Latin-1 diacritical marks for IETF ML discussions as if it were internationally usable. > Correct interpretation of things like UTF-8 is highly dependent > on context. On many systems a plain text file with non-7bit-ASCII > characters won't be displayed as intended by default. The problem is that UNICODE is broken that it does not carry necessary context information, which was expected to be supplied magically. > So it would > be necessary to go to HTML with &#; encodings of these characters > or PDF to be reasonably sure they show up correctly. To me, PDF is > unacceptable because it's even harder to display on devices other > than computers with large screens or paper and it can't be decoded > without complex tools. And switching to HTML just for this purpose > isn't worth it to me. Just rely on ISO2022 and everything works just fine. > But then, I've never written a draft that > equired non-ASCII characters so that's easy for me to say. I did write an RFC and drafts on how character encoding could have been internationalized. Moreover, for these 10 years, I have developped a simple and straight forward theory on what, actually, is unification. I can elaborate, if you are interested in. Masataka Ohta _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf