Forwarded with permission. Begin forwarded message: > From: Nick McKeown <nickm@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: February 8, 2010 16:09:12 GMT+02:00 > To: "Eggert Lars (Nokia-NRC/Espoo)" <lars.eggert@xxxxxxxxx> > Cc: Aaron Falk <falk@xxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: NetFPGA tutorial with IETF in Anaheim > > Lars, > Thanks for checking. The NetFPGA tutorial is not a for-profit event. It > will, in fact, run at a loss. > > As you might imagine, running a tutporial is quite expensive. We will be > flying in two instructors, shipping 10 PCs, setting them up, renting a > room, paying for hotel rooms and providing food. Our estimate is that > this will cost around $250 per attendee. We are subsidizing the cost of > the tutorial using money we spend time raising during the year. We offer > about 5-10 tutorials per year, all at a loss. > > Running a tutorial like the NetFPGA tutorial for free is not really what > you want. A tutorial like this - with specialized equipment - costs > about $5,000 to run. Someone needs to pay. We are a non-profit, and > raise funds for the salaries of all the people working on the project. > > If you think it is useful for the discussion, feel free to forward to > the IETF list. > > - Nick > > On 2/8/10 1:38 AM, Lars Eggert wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On 2010-2-5, at 16:52, Aaron Falk wrote: >> >>> Details about this event and registration information are posted on-line as: >>> http://netfpga.org/tutorials/IETF2010/index.php >>> >> the page says: "Cost of the tutorial is $200." >> >> I'm trying to understand if this is a for-profit event. The reason is that I'm growing somewhat concerned with the recent trend to have more and more non-IETF meetings during or adjacent to the IETF weeks, which distract or at least take energy away from the IETF-related meetings (Sunday has always been *the* day to prepare for the week). But at least so far, those events have been free to attend. >> >> If we're now seeing events co-located with the IETF that charge attendance fees, we're running the real risk of having folks get day-passes for the IETF in order to attend non-IETF meetings. (The cost of this tutorial is ~1/3 of an IETF registration.) Conversely, I don't see the chance of getting additional attendees into the IETF based on these side meetings. >> >> Thanks, >> Lars >> >> PS: I do believe that the topic of this particular tutorial is interesting for a good chunk of the IETF attendees, myself included. My main concern is the monetary aspect, a minor concern the potential with taking energy away from the IETF week.
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